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Diggerthedog wrote:We are currently doing the right thing and beating all the teams around us, problem will be when we start playing the better sides and our run in of fixtures from March are very tough. You are far from a gloating scenario Sussex this will be going down to the wire.
In the past we have failed in beating teams around us . At least this season we have only lost to Tranmere from those below us. Always think that we have looked better this season against teams who try to win the game rather then trying not to get beat.

Since New Year one thing is certain and undeniable we ,have become very hard to beat and that takes you a long way.

Yesterday my Son asked me despite our good away record when did we last look so comfortable in an away game.
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I defended Wayne for the most part to Boxing Day, that was un-acceptable, and then although we improved after that Northampton was dire. I have said all along I thought there would be at least two worse sides than us despite our problems and I would say there will probably end up being 4 or 5.

What I would say to Sussex, and I think a number of fans and the board may want to ask would be:

- Scott Doe has been superb in the last 6 or 7 games, as he has been for most of his time with us. Therefore, what was the reasoning behind leaving him out for some time in October and November, while persisting with Saah. Since Saah has been left out we have gone on one of our best defensive runs since we entered the League. Why did Wayne take so long to see this??

- Likewise, most fans were wondering for weeks why Howell was on the bench while Labadie kept being picked. Since the two have swapped round we are played 3, 7 points, 6 goals for and 2 against. Again, why did the manager take several weeks to see this??

As I say, I backed him up until Boxing Day, and even since I have not seen anyone put forward any great alternatives, so was not to fussed either way. BUT, to make out he is a tactical genius for implementing things people on the terraces were saying for weeks before he made the calls is a bit over the top.
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Obviously he won't get sacked, but we should still be looking at alternatives at the end of his contract. He is a loose cannon at the moment managerially and needs to look at adopting the John Still mantra of "never too high, never too low" if he's going to have any kind of longevity as a manager. In the business he is in he is going to get criticism, and he needs to either take it constructively or totally ignore it. His reaction and interviews say to me he takes it personally.

Despite all the optimism of two wins (against poor teams) we are still bumping around the relegation battle, and, because it is so tight, any team that wins two on the bounce like we just have scoots up the table, but will soon be back in it if they don't keep picking up points.

The secret to the little run we are on right now has been finally sorting ot out at the back by getting Saah out of there, and actually sticking a few goals away at last. Jamie hadn't scored for a while before last week's rebound, and if he is now back on song we are probably ok. If Saah comes back because we can't extend Ayo's loan then we could be back to square one.

Credit due for the recent run, but...
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Does that mean he has to take being called a c__t and told to die constructively.
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I would take it personally!
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IanC wrote:Does that mean he has to take being called a c__t and told to die constructively.
TBH, if he was at a bigger club and they were as consistently rubbish as we have been for the last 15 months then he would be likely to get called a lot worse by a lot more people. If he is thinking of an ongoing career in football management he'd better grow a tougher hide.
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Quite obviously he is with us now until the end of the season!

Whilst it hasnt all necessarily been pretty what cant speak cant lie and like Wayne has said all along "it's a results business"

Despite a couple of very small false dawns we do APPEAR to have turned a bit of a corner now.

Amazing what playing a settled side game after game can do .....

Not expecting us to get anything tomorrow since we have a habit of playing the club (name thereof) rather than the actual 11 players they have out on the pitch.

Certainly things look a bit brighter than they did after the Boxing Day from hell - lets hope it stays that way!
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dagger4eva wrote:the Boxing Day from hell
Boxing Day was the last time we played a team with only one away win all season...
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Two wins don't erase what has gone on before. Even if we won every game 6-0, he still needs to leave at the end of the season.
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Do you really think that if we finish around where we are now the Club will really dump him.

Do you really think that after achieving targets that have been set they will dump him.

Do you really think that a Manager who secured the services of Lawson D'ath, Domanic Samuel, Ade Ayzeez, Ayo Obileye , Luke Norris and Alek Jukubiak, over the past year at no cost to the Club did so by their Parent Clubs thinking our Manager was a dud.

Please don't tell me about what went on before. Remember March 6th 2012 we had just been thumped 4 nil by Swindon and were cut a drift at the bottom of the League.

This Club will never cut it's nose off to spite its face.

Then again I dare say that if we did your real problem about Wayne will at least be resolved. He will be back in the Dugout he abandoned
but as an away Manager.

There will be plenty of teams next season who will be looking for a Manager proven to be able to work on a pathetic budget, perhaps some of the teams who have sacked their Manager this season look at our recent improvement and are thinking why didn't we ?
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He also believes in giving young players a chance
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SUSSEX DAGGER wrote:Do you really think that if we finish around where we are now the Club will really dump him.

Do you really think that after achieving targets that have been set they will dump him.
Sadly you are probably right. However if the club's ambition is really to do nothing in the cups and finish bottom half of League Two, it is almost inevitable that we will be heading back to the Conference in the next couple of seasons. Not that that will be a disaster for the fans (those that predate the Football League at least), apart from it meaning the end of the Academy.
SUSSEX DAGGER wrote:Do you really think that a Manager who secured the services of Lawson D'ath, Domanic Samuel, Ade Ayzeez, Ayo Obileye , Luke Norris and Alek Jukubiak, over the past year at no cost to the Club did so by their Parent Clubs thinking our Manager was a dud.
To which I say two words... Patrick Agyemang
SUSSEX DAGGER wrote:Please don't tell me about what went on before. Remember March 6th 2012 we had just been thumped 4 nil by Swindon and were cut a drift at the bottom of the League.
Yep, we have been struggling before, and John Still probably outstayed his time, but he was a proper club legend for all he achieved and virtually unsackable. As has been said elsewhere, we should never make that mistake again where someone is unsackable.
SUSSEX DAGGER wrote:This Club will never cut it's nose off to spite its face.
It has already done by alienating a significant number of its customers, delivering a substandard product in the last 15 months without actually changing anything. Not that it is unrecoverable, football fans are fickle, but the feel around the football club that we are all in it together has gone for now.
SUSSEX DAGGER wrote:Then again I dare say that if we did your real problem about Wayne will at least be resolved. He will be back in the Dugout he abandoned but as an away Manager.

There will be plenty of teams next season who will be looking for a Manager proven to be able to work on a pathetic budget, perhaps some of the teams who have sacked their Manager this season look at our recent improvement and are thinking why didn't we ?
Great, that'll be three points then.
its all good wrote:He also believes in giving young players a chance
Really? Connors and who else?

Sure we have played a more than a few young players, but they are generally other clubs loanees!
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Agreed most are others team's youngsters up to now
But there are plenty of managers who don't give kids a chance
Hopefully one or two will come through from our Academy before too long
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Do you really think that a Manager who secured the services of Lawson D'ath, Domanic Samuel, Ade Ayzeez, Ayo Obileye , Luke Norris and Alek Jukubiak, over the past year at no cost to the Club did so by their Parent Clubs thinking our Manager was a dud.
He also "secured the services" of 3 players you seem happy to abuse, Liam O'Brien, Andre Boucard and Damian Batt whilst obviously not forgetting Patrick Agyemang, Chris Dickson, Anthony Edgar & Blair Turgid.

Look, Wayne appears to have turned things around in the last 7 matches and good for him but the way you carry on gives the impression you really seem to think people want him to fail... they dont and never have done!!
They want A) a team they can be proud to support regardless of results and B) some excitement on a Saturtday afternoon / Tuesday evening.
For the most part of Wayne's tenure we've pretty much had neither of the above!

To quote Grandad out of OFAH - "you've done so much boot-licking you could be going down with cherry blossom poisioning"

Lets see where we are at the end of the season and things can be evaluated then.....
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dagger4eva wrote:
Do you really think that a Manager who secured the services of Lawson D'ath, Domanic Samuel, Ade Ayzeez, Ayo Obileye , Luke Norris and Alek Jukubiak, over the past year at no cost to the Club did so by their Parent Clubs thinking our Manager was a dud.
He also "secured the services" of 3 players you seem happy to abuse, Liam O'Brien, Andre Boucard and Damian Batt whilst obviously not forgetting Patrick Agyemang, Chris Dickson, Anthony Edgar & Blair Turgid.

Look, Wayne appears to have turned things around in the last 7 matches and good for him but the way you carry on gives the impression you really seem to think people want him to fail... they dont and never have done!!
They want A) a team they can be proud to support regardless of results and B) some excitement on a Saturtday afternoon / Tuesday evening.
For the most part of Wayne's tenure we've pretty much had neither of the above!

To quote Grandad out of OFAH - "you've done so much boot-licking you could be going down with cherry blossom poisioning"

Lets see where we are at the end of the season and things can be evaluated then.....
Objection my lord. I have never abused Bouchard just prefer Luke as I think with Bouchard it slows things down.

Batt I thought he was poor against Morecambe first game of season and he has only got worse.
Plenty have now joined that band it's just I called it as I saw it from the outset.

O'Brien is useless and make no apologises for stating the obvious.

Ageyman I went on record as saying that he was not a complete disaster. His sub appearance at Bury when we were getting ran all over. Would never of started him in a million games but instances such as Bury he was useful by holding the ball up. Never had to do anything like shoot or score which where way beyond his capabilities. Should never of used him except in circumstances when late in a game we were protecting a lead.

He has obviously got a few things completely wrong but other then my Boxing Day wobble always thought it would turn. Despite my support for him I have never been afraid to be critical .

Now for the excitement could have sworn you really were getting into it at Cambridge the other week
and was you not entertained at Oxford
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