Save Dagenham & Redbridge Football Club

[ARNU]

Im not saying things are great Adrian but this petition is just embarrassing.There are more sensible ways to put your point across than that.Forums like this one are for brainless ranting(I got an A level in it afterall).Im totally amazed that the badge issue(Which I happen to like by the way) is even mentioned in it.I just gotta see this walkout,I wonder if it will be as shit as the pillowcase episode last season.3 men and a dog wont be turning up next home game,some protest LOL!!

So you think the walkout idea is stupid? And also you think the petition is stupid?

Just to be clear?

Yes and Yes.

Im not saying things are great,theres many examples of my disappointment in the hundreds of threads on here.I just think the petition in a nutshell is embarrassing.As a person who has had to strike many a deal or get change in business and in my personal life I can categorically say that this way and the wording of it is not at all helpful.It leaves no room for any compromise,offers no solutions and is basically a rant best aired on here or down the pub to anyone who would listen.I wager that pub would soon empty out too.As a device to affect change it is laughable. I remain confident Dave the plumber will just rip it up and piss on it.

[The Romford Dagger]

Im not saying things are great Adrian but this petition is just embarrassing.There are more sensible ways to put your point across than that.Forums like this one are for brainless ranting(I got an A level in it afterall).Im totally amazed that the badge issue(Which I happen to like by the way) is even mentioned in it.I just gotta see this walkout,I wonder if it will be as shit as the pillowcase episode last season.3 men and a dog wont be turning up next home game,some protest LOL!!

So you think the walkout idea is stupid? And also you think the petition is stupid?

Just to be clear?

Yes and Yes.

Im not saying things are great,theres many examples of my disappointment in the hundreds of threads on here.I just think the petition in a nutshell is embarrassing.As a person who has had to strike many a deal or get change in business and in my personal life I can categorically say that this way and the wording of it is not at all helpful.It leaves no room for any compromise,offers no solutions and is basically a rant best aired on here or down the pub to anyone who would listen.I wager that pub would soon empty out too.As a device to affect change it is laughable. I remain confident Dave the plumber will just rip it up and piss on it.

Ok. Just wanted clarity for my next question... What do you suggest the fans do to show dissatisfaction at the current regime?

[ARNU]

Im not saying things are great Adrian but this petition is just embarrassing.There are more sensible ways to put your point across than that.Forums like this one are for brainless ranting(I got an A level in it afterall).Im totally amazed that the badge issue(Which I happen to like by the way) is even mentioned in it.I just gotta see this walkout,I wonder if it will be as shit as the pillowcase episode last season.3 men and a dog wont be turning up next home game,some protest LOL!!

Not sure why you've replied to me like that. I've not said anywhere that I'm protesting or signing up to a petition.
What I do know is that I've only ever supported Dagenham & Redbridge and have done so for over 20 years. This is the first season in over ten years that I've not had a season ticket.
Last Saturday was the first time I've ever not attended a home game on a Saturday when I didn't have something else planned.
I remember you mentioning before how you didn't like some things that happened at West Ham. Well that's what is happening to Dagenham & Redbridge supporters now. You might not get it, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening.
The mention of the badge in the petition is actually quite appropriate. It's not about the badge, it's about the way the club went about changing it. It's about how they've lost touch with their supporters in a massive way.

No I wasn't addressing the general thrust of my point at you in particular Adrian.Also if you bother to read my daily scriblings on here you'd have seen I agree that the club and management has distanced itself from fans in recent seasons.Only yesterday I was moaning again about the dugout change yet again.You aint stupid Adrian and Id be amazed if you thought this petition was anything other than unhelpfull,not least cos of its amateurish wording.My attack is on the method not necessarily that I disagree entirely with the sentiment.

One thing I definitely don't get is all this upset over a ******** badge.What that has to do with any of us i'll never understand.I would hope your life has far more taxing things to deal with than a poxy badge.

[ARNU]

To Romford Dagger.

I suggest people should in any position of dis satisfaction with a product,service or percieved poor return for their money should vote with their feet and go somewhere else.Organised walkouts (and you'll be lucky to get 3 people walk out at half time especially if we're winning) do what exactly ??? Write a carefully constructed letter to Dave the plumber using facts and not insults and im sure he'd at least read it till the end.

[The Romford Dagger]

To Romford Dagger.

I suggest people should in any position of dis satisfaction with a product,service or percieved poor return for their money should vote with their feet and go somewhere else.Organised walkouts (and you'll be lucky to get 3 people walk out at half time especially if we're winning) do what exactly ??? Write a carefully constructed letter to Dave the plumber using facts and not insults and im sure he'd at least read it till the end.

Ok. I think the person who started the petition was likely doing it just to do something. Anything. To show our dissatisfaction. At least he tried doing something so fair play to him.

Also, I wish I had your confidence about us finishing comfortably mid table as you said on the other thread.

[Daggyjack]

Voting with your feet and not turning up does nothing but hurt OUR club financially in the long run.
Why should the supporters who love the club have to turn their back on their club whilst the management continue to run our club into the ground?
It's quite simple, the club hierarchy need to remove Burnett, then have a good look at their own actions and positions.
Certain fans seem to think that Burnett should stay, which is crazy given our position. These are his players, his plans and yet we are absolute garbage. Any other club would have sacked him by now, no question.
The club is certainly a world away from the club I supported ten years ago, with your Roberts', Rainfords, Brooms and Bensons......such a shame that I can't see it changing though,

[Diggerthedog]

177 signatures now......Thommo it's time to act.

[dagger4eva]

177 is a fairly huge portion of the relatively small support base this club has.

As I said previously, id of liked a bit more actual point to the petition - i.e. setting out some actual changes that were wanted. As it is, the club will be able to see there are 177 unhappy people but without any proposals of how those people want the situation remedied.

For me, and as DaggyJack touched on, its more than just being 2nd bottom.
Its a complete mixture of all the various points. made on here several times already along with the club being a world away from those players he listed. Give me Jason Broome over Passley and Rainford over Boucard and give me a Timmy Cole / Gooders or Vickers over Nyron Notsoworthy any day of the week!

I longed for football league like most others and generally its been bloody good fun.
But since Wayne took over and admittedly its not ALL his fault, the fun element has been well and truly zapped out of the entire club!

No true D&R supporter started supporting the club in a quest for genuine glory but our team(s) of yesteryear all gave us something to be proud of. The underdog, who gives a ******, us embarassing the big boys spirit!

Now the only embarassing things we have is a manager who feels fit to dig out supporters the VERY odd occassion he gets a win, a manager who accuses away support of racial abuse despite neither he nor the club following it up and a badge that ive heard several people (non daggers) mistake for Sheffield Utd.

So wayne, you ask if people EXPECT us to be in the playoffs or midtable, NO we dont!!
I would happily see us relegated this season IF it meant a) we were finally shot of you and b) Saturday afternoons' were an enjoyable event once more!

[DI Mike Dashwood]

I have to say, and I say this somewhat regrettably as I rarely agree with him, but I 100% agree with ARNU on this.

I know I will now be vilified and accused of not caring etc, but I am not sure what this is aiming to achieve?? While I agree with some of the issues raised, there is no detail about what can be done to put this right?? Therefore I am not sure what it is going to achieve??

Despite what people think (and again I will be shouted down here) our board are generally reasonable people who do listen (I know daggers4eva may disagree here after a previous chat with Thommo ha ha). They drink in the same bar as the majority of supporters and are more accessible than at most Clubs.

After a drunken discussion about 3 years ago on the way home from Bristol Rovers where our group were having a moan up about things at Club, we put our ideas on a few bits on to a document and I mailed it to Thommo. I got a reply the same day to thank me and say he would look at them. Next time I saw him in the bar (which happened to be the day we were match sponsors) Thommo came and found me and had clearly read the document because he discussed them at length with me, and went in to why they may or may not work.

Anyway, as I say, I am sure nobody bar ARNU will agree with me in anyway, but I am really not sure what you are intending to get from this. I do think things are in a mess, and I do think at the moment we are heading into real trouble, but I am sure the Board are not totally oblivious to this and I am not sure what this will do??

[ARNU]

I have to say, and I say this somewhat regrettably as I rarely agree with him, but I 100% agree with ARNU on this.

I know I will now be vilified and accused of not caring etc, but I am not sure what this is aiming to achieve?? While I agree with some of the issues raised, there is no detail about what can be done to put this right?? Therefore I am not sure what it is going to achieve??

Despite what people think (and again I will be shouted down here) our board are generally reasonable people who do listen (I know daggers4eva may disagree here after a previous chat with Thommo ha ha). They drink in the same bar as the majority of supporters and are more accessible than at most Clubs.

After a drunken discussion about 3 years ago on the way home from Bristol Rovers where our group were having a moan up about things at Club, we put our ideas on a few bits on to a document and I mailed it to Thommo. I got a reply the same day to thank me and say he would look at them. Next time I saw him in the bar (which happened to me the day we were match sponsors) Thommo came and found me and had clearly read the document because he discussed them at length with me, and went in to why they may or may not work.

Anyway, as I say, I am sure nobody bar ARNU will agree with me in anyway, but I am really not sure what you are intending to get from this. I do think things are in a mess, and I do think at the moment we are heading into real trouble, but I am sure the Board are not totally oblivious to this and I am not sure what this will do??

I thought our only disagreement was about the Alishan Tandoori Dashers LOL!!

Those that have followed my utterings closely will know that Im as fed up as anyone else at the current state of affairs.Its a whole new team and needs time to sort itself out.We'll finish mid table.Then maybe we should start demanding a bit more ambition from the club.This guy is paid to finish 22nd,we all know that isn't all he's trying to do.The idea that the badge has anything to do with Wayne is a joke surely.(I like the badge)

[Richie]

What Mike said.

[AVincelotFlyingLeap]

I have to say, and I say this somewhat regrettably as I rarely agree with him, but I 100% agree with ARNU on this.

I know I will now be vilified and accused of not caring etc, but I am not sure what this is aiming to achieve?? While I agree with some of the issues raised, there is no detail about what can be done to put this right?? Therefore I am not sure what it is going to achieve??

Despite what people think (and again I will be shouted down here) our board are generally reasonable people who do listen (I know daggers4eva may disagree here after a previous chat with Thommo ha ha). They drink in the same bar as the majority of supporters and are more accessible than at most Clubs.

After a drunken discussion about 3 years ago on the way home from Bristol Rovers where our group were having a moan up about things at Club, we put our ideas on a few bits on to a document and I mailed it to Thommo. I got a reply the same day to thank me and say he would look at them. Next time I saw him in the bar (which happened to be the day we were match sponsors) Thommo came and found me and had clearly read the document because he discussed them at length with me, and went in to why they may or may not work.

Anyway, as I say, I am sure nobody bar ARNU will agree with me in anyway, but I am really not sure what you are intending to get from this. I do think things are in a mess, and I do think at the moment we are heading into real trouble, but I am sure the Board are not totally oblivious to this and I am not sure what this will do??

Spot on.

[Diggerthedog]

I have to say, and I say this somewhat regrettably as I rarely agree with him, but I 100% agree with ARNU on this.

I know I will now be vilified and accused of not caring etc, but I am not sure what this is aiming to achieve?? While I agree with some of the issues raised, there is no detail about what can be done to put this right?? Therefore I am not sure what it is going to achieve??

Despite what people think (and again I will be shouted down here) our board are generally reasonable people who do listen (I know daggers4eva may disagree here after a previous chat with Thommo ha ha). They drink in the same bar as the majority of supporters and are more accessible than at most Clubs.

After a drunken discussion about 3 years ago on the way home from Bristol Rovers where our group were having a moan up about things at Club, we put our ideas on a few bits on to a document and I mailed it to Thommo. I got a reply the same day to thank me and say he would look at them. Next time I saw him in the bar (which happened to be the day we were match sponsors) Thommo came and found me and had clearly read the document because he discussed them at length with me, and went in to why they may or may not work.

Anyway, as I say, I am sure nobody bar ARNU will agree with me in anyway, but I am really not sure what you are intending to get from this. I do think things are in a mess, and I do think at the moment we are heading into real trouble, but I am sure the Board are not totally oblivious to this and I am not sure what this will do??

I think it will make them sit up and notice that there is a large section of long standing fans that are genuinely worried about the current situation.

If they do not know how to change the whole scenario then perhaps they should not be on the board of a football club and may even offer a resignation. I think the club has outgrown some of the current board, this is my personal opinion.

[dagger4eva]

Dashers,

I don't think many people will disagree at all.

I've been quite clear already that whilst I have signed this petition, I think the wording is such that is doesn't really serve much purpose / request something specific to be achieved.

I'm also with you that most if not all on the board are very reasonable people. That's never been in question for me either. As it quite openly the case, go back to Dec/Jan/Feb last year and by all accounts the board were very much split indeed between wanting to change manager or not. I'd hazard a guess to imagine that split remains - even if the same board members agreed not so long ago to offer WB a new 2 year deal.

At the end of the day, if Wayne manages to achieve 2-3 wins from October's league fixtures then some of this talk will instantly disappear.
If by the end of the month we are still on single figures and rock bottom I expect the pressure being ramped up on him will increase dramatically.
Simple as that ...

[Kevin]

Dashers,

I don't think many people will disagree at all.

I've been quite clear already that whilst I have signed this petition, I think the wording is such that is doesn't really serve much purpose / request something specific to be achieved.

I'm also with you that most if not all on the board are very reasonable people. That's never been in question for me either. As it quite openly the case, go back to Dec/Jan/Feb last year and by all accounts the board were very much split indeed between wanting to change manager or not. I'd hazard a guess to imagine that split remains - even if the same board members agreed not so long ago to offer WB a new 2 year deal.

At the end of the day, if Wayne manages to achieve 2-3 wins from October's league fixtures then some of this talk will instantly disappear.
If by the end of the month we are still on single figures and rock bottom I expect the pressure being ramped up on him will increase dramatically.
Simple as that ...

This is pretty much my opinion also.

Was very unimpressed that they gave WB a 2yr contract extension - even less impressed with the gushings from the board as if they'd made some kind of coup by doing so.

I doubt very much that petition (which isn't greatly worded, with most of the personal stuff being pretty darn irrelevant) will have much of an impact..but I'd like to think the board may at least note that not every one of the supporters is the happiest of bunnies at the moment - and hasn't been for some time.

Whether they do anything about it remains to be seen.