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RM1Dagger
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Tamworth were the perfect opponents, they didn't come to play like Boston did, firmly ensconced in mid table already thinking about their holidays... However, although I thought we were still playing okay with 10 it was never going to be sustainable and the pen killed us.

Not sure telling Young to f- off at halftime and booing the team helps (in a game we were still in at that stage) from some fans. The guy is out of his depth sure, but he's been put in that position by the incompetent owners.

Also the Strevs shouts are a bit embarrassing when lots of the same fans probably wanted him gone.
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RM1Dagger wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:05 pmAlso the Strevs shouts are a bit embarrassing when lots of the same fans probably wanted him gone.
I was feeling a bit conflicted about this yesterday, am interested to hear others opinions. Obviously our players at the moment are not making the required amount of effort to stay up, this is a fair criticism I think. Yesterday there were chants for 'proper Dagenham people' i.e Strevens and Justham.

But, there's no denying that Justham made a few mistakes this season, that his replacement has come in and made some great saves yesterday, and that El signed not for Southend but for a team what two divisions below?

There's also no denying that the performances under Strevs against Wealdstone and Braintree were absolutely shite and certainly gave the owners the option to sack him. I wasn't crying with anguish when he was sacked certainly.

So, do you keep the 'proper daggers' on, even though you know the performances are not good, just to show a bit of pashun for the shirt? Or do you risk a situation like this, with good players who don't have any interest in playing for us?

Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but I am struggling with this.
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AVincelotFlyingLeap wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:19 pm
RM1Dagger wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:05 pmAlso the Strevs shouts are a bit embarrassing when lots of the same fans probably wanted him gone.
I was feeling a bit conflicted about this yesterday, am interested to hear others opinions. Obviously our players at the moment are not making the required amount of effort to stay up, this is a fair criticism I think. Yesterday there were chants for 'proper Dagenham people' i.e Strevens and Justham.

But, there's no denying that Justham made a few mistakes this season, that his replacement has come in and made some great saves yesterday, and that El signed not for Southend but for a team what two divisions below?

There's also no denying that the performances under Strevs against Wealdstone and Braintree were absolutely shite and certainly gave the owners the option to sack him. I wasn't crying with anguish when he was sacked certainly.

So, do you keep the 'proper daggers' on, even though you know the performances are not good, just to show a bit of pashun for the shirt? Or do you risk a situation like this, with good players who don't have any interest in playing for us?

Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but I am struggling with this.
i am one who reluctantly thought that Strevs should be moved on, naively thinking the new owners were sticking to their whole sales pitch of ‘playoffs’.
I do not agree with the manner in which it was done.
I was hoping, like so many others, that we’d have a new manager who could push us into the playoffs, or at least do better than Strevs.

What i did not expect was for the regime to have not learned from their mistakes and give someone with no management experience of success at this level, a contract of over two years.

Strevs cared about the club but he knew he was here for results. He had his hands tied from the very beginning, with McMahon’s payoff coming out of his playing budget.

I feel little internal conflict about any of the protests yesterday.
I did however speak to some of those chanting to reduce the use of the C word, as it was meant to be a family day overall.
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given the protests near the tunnel and the abuse the players got at the final whistle, you just know the club we make next game- no home fans in SD samuels stand.
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Well if they do that they can refund me for the remaining games.

The Strevens chants were in support of the man himself and the handling of his sacking by James King and also King’s treatment of the club captain Justham.

Not worried about day trippers being upset by a bit of swearing, they never coming back regardless.
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Pondfield Dagger wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:09 pm given the protests near the tunnel and the abuse the players got at the final whistle, you just know the club we make next game- no home fans in SD samuels stand.
The club should know better than trying to suppress protests. It's not like they've got a good track record in doing so.
They should be dealing with the reason for the protests and the anger of the fans, which are borne out of utmost dismay and anger as to how our once proud family club is being hurtled into oblivion.
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Call it incompetence or naivety they should have never given Young a two year deal. If a six month/ end of season contract wasn't acceptable to him then they should have looked elsewhere. According to them they had hundreds of applicants, surely there was someone out of work that would have accepted those terms. Now they're stuck with him.
And we are going down because of it.
We had a striker in Junior who was a 100% player every week and they meekly showed him the door and yet they consistently try to pigeon hole other new players as stop gaps in the vain hope that somethings going to gel and we're miraculously going to pull away from relegation. It hasn't, we're actually worse than before!!
I'm sick and tired of seeing the website with shop opening times, diversity days, Young's pre/post match spiel and the odd player chipping in with what we need to do garbage. No one I'll care about any of that when the trap door to the national league south opens up and we're entertaining Chippenham next season!
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Morais was not re-signed as we tried to make the deal even cheaper, we asked Notts for a further £200 off the loan deal and they said no, great negotiation from King who clearly can’t scout a decent player himself and knows very little about HR procedures within a business.
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On paper Strevs was not getting the required results and something had to change. Justham also was not playing well.

However I do strongly suspect behind the scenes issues played a part in that.

It's fine to move people on for football reasons but there's ways of doing that which have a bit more class.

And when you do that, you'd better make sure an improvement is coming. Instead we appointed a fraud.

Probably Young is also afflicted by similar off field issues. Including trying to do things on the cheap, huge number of injuries again, players who think they're leaving in May and don't want to risk too much, a dark cloud still cast by how Justham and Strevens were handled. But tactically he is pretty much clueless.

Chanting for Strevs and El for me is just making clear how people felt about their treatment. I don't necessarily want either of them back. But they are proper Daggers and at least they cared.
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stanton101 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:36 pm Call it incompetence or naivety they should have never given Young a two year deal. If a six month/ end of season contract wasn't acceptable to him then they should have looked elsewhere. According to them they had hundreds of applicants, surely there was someone out of work that would have accepted those terms. Now they're stuck with him.
And we are going down because of it.
We had a striker in Junior who was a 100% player every week and they meekly showed him the door and yet they consistently try to pigeon hole other new players as stop gaps in the vain hope that somethings going to gel and we're miraculously going to pull away from relegation. It hasn't, we're actually worse than before!!
I'm sick and tired of seeing the website with shop opening times, diversity days, Young's pre/post match spiel and the odd player chipping in with what we need to do garbage. No one I'll care about any of that when the trap door to the national league south opens up and we're entertaining Chippenham next season!
On a brighter note, I had possibly one of the best curries I've ever had in Chippenham last week. A post match recommed!
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RM1Dagger wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:05 pm Tamworth were the perfect opponents, they didn't come to play like Boston did, firmly ensconced in mid table already thinking about their holidays... However, although I thought we were still playing okay with 10 it was never going to be sustainable and the pen killed us.

Not sure telling Young to f- off at halftime and booing the team helps (in a game we were still in at that stage) from some fans. The guy is out of his depth sure, but he's been put in that position by the incompetent owners.

Also the Strevs shouts are a bit embarrassing when lots of the same fans probably wanted him gone.

Easy solution regarding the booing. Don’t be shit.

I find it embarrassing that a large proportion of our supporters are complete gimps, who are happy for our club to die in front of their eyes and do nothing about it.
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Ally Fraser wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 6:14 pm
RM1Dagger wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:05 pm Tamworth were the perfect opponents, they didn't come to play like Boston did, firmly ensconced in mid table already thinking about their holidays... However, although I thought we were still playing okay with 10 it was never going to be sustainable and the pen killed us.

Not sure telling Young to f- off at halftime and booing the team helps (in a game we were still in at that stage) from some fans. The guy is out of his depth sure, but he's been put in that position by the incompetent owners.

Also the Strevs shouts are a bit embarrassing when lots of the same fans probably wanted him gone.

Easy solution regarding the booing. Don’t be shit.

I find it embarrassing that a large proportion of our supporters are complete gimps, who are happy for our club to die in front of their eyes and do nothing about it.
Hmm, okay..I'm as frustrated as anyone and sure protest against the owners etc. Coming off at halftime yesterday we were still in the game having just conceded a pen close to the break. IMO at that point I thought it was a bit unwarranted to boo the team and moreover, I would never tell a manager to f off loudly so he can clearly hear, because I just think that's 5hitty behaviour regardless of the circumstances.
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RM1Dagger wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:59 pm
Ally Fraser wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 6:14 pm
RM1Dagger wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:05 pm Tamworth were the perfect opponents, they didn't come to play like Boston did, firmly ensconced in mid table already thinking about their holidays... However, although I thought we were still playing okay with 10 it was never going to be sustainable and the pen killed us.

Not sure telling Young to f- off at halftime and booing the team helps (in a game we were still in at that stage) from some fans. The guy is out of his depth sure, but he's been put in that position by the incompetent owners.

Also the Strevs shouts are a bit embarrassing when lots of the same fans probably wanted him gone.

Easy solution regarding the booing. Don’t be shit.

I find it embarrassing that a large proportion of our supporters are complete gimps, who are happy for our club to die in front of their eyes and do nothing about it.
Hmm, okay..I'm as frustrated as anyone and sure protest against the owners etc. Coming off at halftime yesterday we were still in the game having just conceded a pen close to the break. IMO at that point I thought it was a bit unwarranted to boo the team and moreover, I would never tell a manager to f off loudly so he can clearly hear, because I just think that's 5hitty behaviour regardless of the circumstances.
Shitty behaviour would be how he has stabbed Strevens in the back to only destroy any future career he may have had. Nothing wrong with criticising or throwing abuse at the playing staff, you just have to be willing to also do it up close and personal if you’re doing it from afar. Much like many fans did on Saturday with Hill, Hess, Hector and would have love the chance for it with Young.

Us fans will still be at this club (if it exists) in 5, 10, 20 years time. No one on the pitch or in the boardroom will still be there then. So yeah I’m not going to hold back my opinion on them because it might upset them. We’re the ones who care more and are actually the victims in this shower of shit.
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I try to not often get frustrated with our own fan base, especially online... But what are we discussing here about abuse of the team last weekend? Seriously?? Are we supposed to sit online or on social media and vocalise how poor we are, that we haven't since new year's day and are going down to the Conference South with a squad our ownership suggested was Play Off worthy? What is the point in paying to attend games and not vocalise, in person the terrible situation we are in?? What are we even arguing about here?

I personally left the game at half time on Saturday after the own goal and penalty, something I cannot remember ever doing in the past, even when we were behind in a game... I was 100% certain that the second half offered nothing after the equaliser and the idea we were 'still in the game' just has no basis on the reality of this season.

If you had offered me odds at 45 minutes of the game staying at 1-1 or us winning the match with ten men, I wouldn't have even taken your money off of you to take that bet... The defeat was as much a certainty as someone like Barnet or York winning their game. Truly baffling thoughts on our team's progress in 2025, when we have a worse record since the turn of the year than Ebbsfleet who I must stress don't currently have 20 points this season in mid March!
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It’s 15 years of frustrations for most people, bad decision after bad decision and it’s unlikely to change anytime soon. People either go and voice an opinion or don’t go at all so moaning at those that still go and voice an opinion will only drive them away. I’ll voice my opinion until the end of the season and once it’s done I’ll walk away for good just like hundreds of others already have, the free tickets they give out to bump up our attendances show we will still struggle in the league below.

Time and time again this club has had a chance to rejuvenate itself and time and time again its failed and there is very good reason for that as said earlier that same constant who remains the cancer of this club. Hopefully his precious diversity day was completed ruined and his guests left with open mouths. No doubt a few banning orders on the way for some, doubt they’ll care at being banned from watching even more failure.
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