Views from the Sieve

As admin, I feel have to step in now. I apologise that it's late but this is first chance I've had to view the forum today. I geuninely feel that everyone has only acted in a way which they see appropriate. However I'd like to overturn the ban, I think he used the word out of context and not genuinely as a dig at the disabled.

Going forward if anyone is geuninely offended by certain words, I can add a swear filter, I personally don't see fit myself but if others want it, I will add it

admin wrote:As admin, I feel have to step in now. I apologise that it's late but this is first chance I've had to view the forum today. I geuninely feel that everyone has only acted in a way which they see appropriate. However I'd like to overturn the ban, I think he used the word out of context and not genuinely as a dig at the disabled.

Going forward if anyone is geuninely offended by certain words, I can add a swear filter, I personally don't see fit myself but if others want it, I will add it

Ooooh a moderation overall

That ain't gonna go down well. *






* good decision though. The ban was well over the top.

He didn't use it out of context, he used it in exactly the way that makes it offensive. Not a fan of banning, educating on why words are offensive is better. I can't believe it's 2017 and we're debating how offensive that word is though.

The medical term "spastic" came into use to describe cerebral palsy.[3] The Scottish Council for the Care of Spastics was founded in 1946, and the Spastics Society, an English charity for people with cerebral palsy, was founded in 1951.

However, the word began to be used as an insult and became a term of abuse used to imply stupidity or physical ineptness: one who is uncoordinated or incompetent, or a fool.[4] It was often colloquially abbreviated to shorter forms such as "spaz".

Although the word has a much longer history, its derogatory use grew considerably in the 1980s and this is sometimes attributed to the BBC children's TV show Blue Peter;[5] during the International Year of Disabled Persons (1981), several episodes of Blue Peter featured a man named Joey Deacon with cerebral palsy (described as a "spastic"). Phrases such as "joey", "deacon", and "spaz" became widely used insults amongst children at that time.[6]

In 1994, the same year that Conservative MP Terry Dicks referred to himself in a House of Commons debate as "a spastic with cerebral palsy",[7] the Spastics Society changed its name to Scope. The word "spastic" has been largely erased from popular English usage and is deemed unacceptable to use outside of specific medical contexts, thus reducing stigmatisation of the condition.[5] However, UK schoolchildren allegedly developed a derogatory adaptation of the Spastic Society's new name, "scoper".[8] The current understanding of the word is well-illustrated by a BBC survey in 2003, which found that "spastic" was the second most offensive term in the UK relating to disability (retard was deemed most offensive).[2] In 2007, Lynne Murphy, a linguist at the University of Sussex, described the term as being "one of the most taboo insults to a British ear".[1]

Glad you agree.

Nasty piece of work that Arnu fella.
Personally I would have had him shot.

Well, I was 14 in 1980 and the word was used regularly on TV and just another word. I'm not disputing that it's offensive now when used as a term to purposely offend somebody or some thing but I think when describing our moronic minority of hooligans it just added power to my condemnation of them. I'm seeing this as don't call hooligans the SP word in case it upsets them. If you're 40 or younger you probably won't get it . There's YouTube clips from children's TV in the 80's where the word is frequently used.

ARNU wrote:Well, I was 14 in 1980 and the word was used regularly on TV and just another word. I'm not disputing that it's offensive now when used as a term to purposely offend somebody or some thing but I think when describing our moronic minority of hooligans it just added power to my condemnation of them. I'm seeing this as don't call hooligans the SP word in case it upsets them. If you're 40 or younger you probably won't get it . There's YouTube clips from children's TV in the 80's where the word is frequently used.

Have you read this statement from the club ARNU praising our fans about the scenes on Saturday.
http://www.daggers.co.uk/news/-KuKXWketzNxhFrXcACu

NBDag wrote:News reports of Arnu's face being projected onto the Eiffel Tower to show solidarity.

I genuinely lolled at this

That's good. I was outside when they got ejected. Dunno why they don't put away fans in the family stand. Rarely are there more than 200. They'd be totally separated then.

Lots of words used to be used in certain ways and are now not acceptable.

I hate that so many people seem to be professionally offended these days but this isn't one of those cases. You are being an idiot. Give it a rest.

lol

This is one of the threads that needs locking. No good can come from it.
Admin your wrong and should of stood by your moderator.
Calling people spastic's even if there not is plain wrong end of argument.
There is lots of words when arnu was dragged up that can be used are they ok aswell?.

Perfetic

Yeah lock it before the bandwagon leaves..

ARNU wrote:That's good. I was outside when they got ejected. Dunno why they don't put away fans in the family stand. Rarely are there more than 200. They'd be totally separated then.

Think it's because the club want their beer money.