Views from the Sieve

Did the club know about? Or did just Mr Still know about it and failed to tell the board when they sanctioned the signing?

This isn't a case of someone finding a phone and walking off with it is it ? It's armed robbery, could have been your son or you couldn't it. ****** him just cos he can kick a ball. Football should not be a haven for rapists drunk drivers murderers or armed robbers.

It's not armed robbery,it's theft. That's why it's described as theft multiple times.
Funny how you didn't have an issue when we signed a player that had just been found guilty.of assault last year.

As the law stands Adrian is right, also was their not a case that was refered to The Court Of Appeall
this year regarding joint enterprise . He had to know his fellow defendent had a knife in the first instance.

Do however have sympathy with the basis of your arguement Arnu and do we really need a Person like this .

Really had high hopes for this kid but not at any price.

It's only theft because they picked up and kept the phone the bloke dropped when he ran off after the knife was pulled. They didn't use the knife to threaten him to get the phone - technicality.

If he'd given them the phone after being threatened, or they used force to take it, that would have been robbery.

Joint enterprise case was in relation murder.

Adrian wrote:It's not armed robbery,it's theft. That's why it's described as theft multiple times.
Funny how you didn't have an issue when we signed a player that had just been found guilty.of assault last year.

What player ? I wouldn't be tolerant of that either. I'd have sacked Abu josh Scott Jamie guy Woodall partridge and labadie. Can't think who id excuse just cos they're a footballer. The game is full of wronguns and apologists like you. I'd sack them all.

I'm afraid there's only one thing to do here and that's to have him executed by firing squad.

ARNU wrote:

Adrian wrote:It's not armed robbery,it's theft. That's why it's described as theft multiple times.
Funny how you didn't have an issue when we signed a player that had just been found guilty.of assault last year.

What player ? I wouldn't be tolerant of that either. I'd have sacked Abu josh Scott Jamie guy Woodall partridge and labadie. Can't think who id excuse just cos they're a footballer. The game is full of wronguns and apologists like you. I'd sack them all.

Josh Scott was cleared. Would you still sack him?

If we are obeying the law of the land then yes I'd have to re instate him probably have to pay some compensation too what with the way things are these days.The details of that case aren't pretty and there was a case to answer. Also if you believe in the judicial process you'd let the Steve Evans shit lie wouldn't you ? He served his penalty job done. Dosent mean he's an angel or a particularly nice guy or that his punishment was enough. Funny tho how we can pick and choose innit. I hate wife beaters no doubt we'll sign one in the future and he'll be excused by others.

arnu is right get rid convicted anything is not worth having in our squad. he is not that good either granted he better than this division. sack him and get someone in that deserves the chance. dont see any argument for keeping him.

my son got a 2 year college football course, he does that he loses it, infact he has to work bloody hard to just stay in.

Must agree with Arnu on one thing, there is a lot of hypocrisy about on here when these things are discussed. Steve Evans was found guilty of something and punished and rightly or wrongly returned to the game. People on here rightly or wrongly went on about if for years. Something like this happens and people say he deserves a second chance (rightly or wrongly). Interesting how people have a different view depending on how it effects them (or the Club).

And for the person who tried to excuse the fact that they didn't take the phone the bloke dropped it etc, is it right that our players keep the company of people who carry a knife with them on a night out to the casino??

Auntie Merge wrote:

ARNU wrote:

Adrian wrote:It's not armed robbery,it's theft. That's why it's described as theft multiple times.
Funny how you didn't have an issue when we signed a player that had just been found guilty.of assault last year.

What player ? I wouldn't be tolerant of that either. I'd have sacked Abu josh Scott Jamie guy Woodall partridge and labadie. Can't think who id excuse just cos they're a footballer. The game is full of wronguns and apologists like you. I'd sack them all.

Josh Scott was cleared. Would you still sack him?

Well the British Judical systeam must be knackered then, otherwise innocent men would not be bound over to keep the peace for 12 months and ordered to pay £250 .

I'm not some vicar who never dropped a sweetie paper on the floor , but I'm a dad who would be utterly disgusted if one of mine even bought a phone home they'd " found" let alone robbed off someone at knifepoint. I've seen 1st hand what idiots with knives can do . There has to be consequences. Anyone wanna talk about Jamie guy ?

DI Mike Dashwood wrote:And for the person who tried to excuse the fact that they didn't take the phone the bloke dropped it etc, is it right that our players keep the company of people who carry a knife with them on a night out to the casino??

If you mean me, far from trying to excuse what he did, I was explaining the legal technicality behind why he had been charged and convicted of theft rather than robbery. I did so because somebody had said that it wasn't theft but armed robbery. I've said that my view is that we should sack him.

Fair enough, thank you for clarifying.