Views from the Sieve

dj johnny b wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:09 am I think the thing that upsets me most about this sort of debate/discussion (and it's common on football forums everywhere of course) is that a) it's been made clear there is no vacancy b) the current incumbent is probably in some pain post op - some remarks here are churlish at best and c) be careful (and realistic) what you wish for....I recall one name mentioned on here oversaw a 0-9 home defeat, looked clueless that evening as his very expensive team imploded.And look at Wrexham - money isn't getting them anywhere at present.12 months on be grateful we have a club at all.

EssexDagger! wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:37 pm Bit of a random shout here but what about Paul Tisdale the ex Bath,Exeter & MK Dons manager? relatively young in managerial terms (46) and has had some experience in this division with getting Exeter promoted out of this league (albeit a fair few years ago) & also went on to get them promoted into league one after that, after getting relegated back to league 2, He again led little old Exeter to another 2 play off finals at Wembley which earnt him the MK Dons job.

He also led MK done to promotion at the first attempt but was dismissed the following season.
For such a young manager he has been around a long time and has plenty of experience and is currently a free agent.

EssexDagger! wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:37 pm Bit of a random shout here but what about Paul Tisdale the ex Bath,Exeter & MK Dons manager? relatively young in managerial terms (46) and has had some experience in this division with getting Exeter promoted out of this league (albeit a fair few years ago) & also went on to get them promoted into league one after that, after getting relegated back to league 2, He again led little old Exeter to another 2 play off finals at Wembley which earnt him the MK Dons job.

He also led MK done to promotion at the first attempt but was dismissed the following season.
For such a young manager he has been around a long time and has plenty of experience and is currently a free agent.

EssexDagger! wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:37 pm Bit of a random shout here but what about Paul Tisdale the ex Bath,Exeter & MK Dons manager? relatively young in managerial terms (46) and has had some experience in this division with getting Exeter promoted out of this league (albeit a fair few years ago) & also went on to get them promoted into league one after that, after getting relegated back to league 2, He again led little old Exeter to another 2 play off finals at Wembley which earnt him the MK Dons job.

He also led MK done to promotion at the first attempt but was dismissed the following season.
For such a young manager he has been around a long time and has plenty of experience and is currently a free agent.

DevonDagger wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:37 pm

EssexDagger! wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:37 pm Bit of a random shout here but what about Paul Tisdale the ex Bath,Exeter & MK Dons manager? relatively young in managerial terms (46) and has had some experience in this division with getting Exeter promoted out of this league (albeit a fair few years ago) & also went on to get them promoted into league one after that, after getting relegated back to league 2, He again led little old Exeter to another 2 play off finals at Wembley which earnt him the MK Dons job.

He also led MK done to promotion at the first attempt but was dismissed the following season.
For such a young manager he has been around a long time and has plenty of experience and is currently a free agent.

Due to where I live I have been taken along to several Exeter (I wouldn't say they're all that little by the way) games over several years and seen them play under Tisdale.

If a vacancy arrived actually and he applied I would definitely give him consideration mainly for the reasons Essex gives above.

Fairly or not, he wasn't always popular and perhaps as a consequence he didn't appear to involve himself with the fans very much. In that alone he's more like Peter Taylor in the way he slopes off after games whereas John Still would come over to supporters without fail from my experience. Perhaps each to their own and I'm not suggesting we consider future managers solely on whether they give supporters a clap at the end or not. I personally just prefer a manager who will has the ability to form a better relationship with supporters than Peter Taylor has.

In terms of style, briefly, I would suggest Tisdale tends to setup teams to take leads and hold out thereafter. A lot of possession based football with a focus on organised setups. Worth noting he took a number of Exeter players with him to MK Dons, so one of those managers who will potentially bring the same players with him again at his next job.

He certainly in the past has produced teams which have performed better than the individuals themselves.

Dag82 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:58 pm

dj johnny b wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:09 am I think the thing that upsets me most about this sort of debate/discussion (and it's common on football forums everywhere of course) is that a) it's been made clear there is no vacancy b) the current incumbent is probably in some pain post op - some remarks here are churlish at best and c) be careful (and realistic) what you wish for....I recall one name mentioned on here oversaw a 0-9 home defeat, looked clueless that evening as his very expensive team imploded.And look at Wrexham - money isn't getting them anywhere at present.12 months on be grateful we have a club at all.

The current incumbent has been causing most of us pain, for months.

Yes, do recall that GH lost a game 9-0, near the end of his 5th and last season here.

The previous four seasons, we finished 1st, 3rd, 2nd, and 5th.

Yep, terrible times.

Much prefer it these days.

hockley dagger wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:10 pm I can't see either Burnett or Hill making a comeback. We all know who might.