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AVincelotFlyingLeap
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Would Rhys and Jamie work as a front 2? They're similar sorts of players
Adrian
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matt_drfc wrote: No point debating this, if Wayne changes something and you don't like it, it's wrong, even if it works and you didn't actually see it. Personally wouldn't mind seeing him there again.

And we've had good loanees in the past, Ritchie and Baudry to name 2. This new guy looks like he could benefit us in both boxes, so why not give him a chance before writing him off? If Gayle gets a good amount of games under his belt, he can come back better, rather than just playing reserve games.
I'm expressing an opinion. I believe that is allowed in here. I seem to get slated for not respecting other people's, but its fine for others to not respect mine.

On the loanees, I have to be honest I must have missed Ritchie and Bauldry playing for us last season.

My original response was in relation to the original post about Burnett not knowing what his best team is.
I note that you haven't jumped on that post like you did mine. Can't say I'm surprised though.
matt_drfc
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Adrian wrote:
matt_drfc wrote: No point debating this, if Wayne changes something and you don't like it, it's wrong, even if it works and you didn't actually see it. Personally wouldn't mind seeing him there again.

And we've had good loanees in the past, Ritchie and Baudry to name 2. This new guy looks like he could benefit us in both boxes, so why not give him a chance before writing him off? If Gayle gets a good amount of games under his belt, he can come back better, rather than just playing reserve games.
I'm expressing an opinion. I believe that is allowed in here. I seem to get slated for not respecting other people's, but its fine for others to not respect mine.

On the loanees, I have to be honest I must have missed Ritchie and Bauldry playing for us last season.

My original response was in relation to the original post about Burnett not knowing what his best team is.
I note that you haven't jumped on that post like you did mine. Can't say I'm surprised though.
I'm expressing an opinion too.

I clearly said 'in the past' so yawn.

I just noticed a few points in your post and replied to them, is that not allowed? Please don't flatter yourself :lol:
redboy
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Lets be honest, WB hasn't a clue what his best side, formation, defender, striker or even pair of jeans are. He is not management material, highlighted by his numerous mistakes since his appointment. As soon as I saw Saturday's side, I had my mortgage (I wish) on the dons to win. When we he ever realise that Porter is about ryman league standard, when will he play 2 up front, when will he stop f'king about with our defence, why did he buy Doidge, why were all the midgets picked and the bigger guys dropped? I could go on, but I wont bore everybody. Ive actually got to the point where I wouldn't mind if Southport beat us tomorrow night if it meant him going. That's assuming the board or WB himself grow some balls between now and then.
Lcbdagger
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I've already mentioned previously that I didn't see the game/performance on Saturday... but it worries me greatly that anyone still believes, coming up to Christmas that a 'manager's best starting eleven' can possibly include a winger at left back and Porter anywhere near the team... if Hemmings is seriously being considered as a long term LB solution then that means neither Green or Connors are the answer and we need to get rid and replace them with someone of decent quality.

Porter and Hemmings as a wide option on one side of the pitch terrifies me if this is to continue in to the New Year and beyond
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Lcbdagger wrote:I've already mentioned previously that I didn't see the game/performance on Saturday... but it worries me greatly that anyone still believes, coming up to Christmas that a 'manager's best starting eleven' can possibly include a winger at left back and Porter anywhere near the team... if Hemmings is seriously being considered as a long term LB solution then that means neither Green or Connors are the answer and we need to get rid and replace them with someone of decent quality.

Porter and Hemmings as a wide option on one side of the pitch terrifies me if this is to continue in to the New Year and beyond
I reckon Green was rested for tonight, but Hemmings did really well defensively and going forward, looked comfortable, he's surprisingly good at heading as well considering his height, got a proper good jump on him. I still think there's more to come from Porter, he worked his bollocks off on Saturday and put in a good ball for Abu who should have finished. I know what you mean, they aren't great but I think they a do a decent job.
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matt_drfc wrote:
Lcbdagger wrote:I've already mentioned previously that I didn't see the game/performance on Saturday... but it worries me greatly that anyone still believes, coming up to Christmas that a 'manager's best starting eleven' can possibly include a winger at left back and Porter anywhere near the team... if Hemmings is seriously being considered as a long term LB solution then that means neither Green or Connors are the answer and we need to get rid and replace them with someone of decent quality.

Porter and Hemmings as a wide option on one side of the pitch terrifies me if this is to continue in to the New Year and beyond
I reckon Green was rested for tonight, but Hemmings did really well defensively and going forward, looked comfortable, he's surprisingly good at heading as well considering his height, got a proper good jump on him. I still think there's more to come from Porter, he worked his bollocks off on Saturday and put in a good ball for Abu who should have finished. I know what you mean, they aren't great but I think they a do a decent job.
Not doubting either had a decent game Matt... but Porter hasn't just been poor all season, he has been utterly anonymous in close to half of all his games... he cannot possibly be a long(ish0 term answer to our problems going forward

As I said I can't comment on Hemmings last week, but if we have two LB's in our squad and neither are as a good as a winger who has been converted to play at the back (I don't imagine he played there much for previous clubs) then surely the money being spent on our other options needs to go elsewhere and these guys, at the very least, need to go out on Loan.
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Lcbdagger wrote:
matt_drfc wrote:
Lcbdagger wrote:I've already mentioned previously that I didn't see the game/performance on Saturday... but it worries me greatly that anyone still believes, coming up to Christmas that a 'manager's best starting eleven' can possibly include a winger at left back and Porter anywhere near the team... if Hemmings is seriously being considered as a long term LB solution then that means neither Green or Connors are the answer and we need to get rid and replace them with someone of decent quality.

Porter and Hemmings as a wide option on one side of the pitch terrifies me if this is to continue in to the New Year and beyond
I reckon Green was rested for tonight, but Hemmings did really well defensively and going forward, looked comfortable, he's surprisingly good at heading as well considering his height, got a proper good jump on him. I still think there's more to come from Porter, he worked his bollocks off on Saturday and put in a good ball for Abu who should have finished. I know what you mean, they aren't great but I think they a do a decent job.
Not doubting either had a decent game Matt... but Porter hasn't just been poor all season, he has been utterly anonymous in close to half of all his games... he cannot possibly be a long(ish0 term answer to our problems going forward

As I said I can't comment on Hemmings last week, but if we have two LB's in our squad and neither are as a good as a winger who has been converted to play at the back (I don't imagine he played there much for previous clubs) then surely the money being spent on our other options needs to go elsewhere and these guys, at the very least, need to go out on Loan.
That's fair enough, I do agree on Porter, I just feel there is more to come. And remember Connors was on international duty.. I do think Green was rested but may even have picked up a knock in the warm up for example, never know...
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Lcbdagger wrote:
matt_drfc wrote:
Lcbdagger wrote:I've already mentioned previously that I didn't see the game/performance on Saturday... but it worries me greatly that anyone still believes, coming up to Christmas that a 'manager's best starting eleven' can possibly include a winger at left back and Porter anywhere near the team... if Hemmings is seriously being considered as a long term LB solution then that means neither Green or Connors are the answer and we need to get rid and replace them with someone of decent quality.

Porter and Hemmings as a wide option on one side of the pitch terrifies me if this is to continue in to the New Year and beyond
I reckon Green was rested for tonight, but Hemmings did really well defensively and going forward, looked comfortable, he's surprisingly good at heading as well considering his height, got a proper good jump on him. I still think there's more to come from Porter, he worked his bollocks off on Saturday and put in a good ball for Abu who should have finished. I know what you mean, they aren't great but I think they a do a decent job.
Not doubting either had a decent game Matt... but Porter hasn't just been poor all season, he has been utterly anonymous in close to half of all his games... he cannot possibly be a long(ish0 term answer to our problems going forward

As I said I can't comment on Hemmings last week, but if we have two LB's in our squad and neither are as a good as a winger who has been converted to play at the back (I don't imagine he played there much for previous clubs) then surely the money being spent on our other options needs to go elsewhere and these guys, at the very least, need to go out on Loan.
Heard that Green had a knock and Connors was away with Ireland.
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Porter is the best winger we have.

Not a popular opinion perhaps but he's won me around. Deserves to be in the team ahead of Hemmings, Chambers, Yusuff, Shields etc in my opinion
Lcbdagger
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Richie wrote:Porter is the best winger we have.

Not a popular opinion perhaps but he's won me around. Deserves to be in the team ahead of Hemmings, Chambers, Yusuff, Shields etc in my opinion
If you are talking about a one off game when all possible players are on sh@t hot form and giving 1010% then I couldn't disagree... if you are talking 46 games however and only have wages for one option, there is no way you could pick Porter above Chambers... Yusuff obviously isn't a wide player and Shields isn't really an option at all as he isn't even currently in the squad.

Medy used to drive most Daggers fans mad but at least he turned it on 1 game in 3 or 4 rather than 1 in 10... and he also scored the odd penalty.

Porter and Hemmings run around like mad, much like jake Reed and give their all for the team... of that I have no doubt, but they will never create enough over the season to justify them getting in as part of a 433 formation, ahead of us having a 442 with two genuine strikers up top
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Lcbdagger wrote:
Richie wrote:Porter is the best winger we have.

Not a popular opinion perhaps but he's won me around. Deserves to be in the team ahead of Hemmings, Chambers, Yusuff, Shields etc in my opinion
If you are talking about a one off game when all possible players are on sh@t hot form and giving 1010% then I couldn't disagree... if you are talking 46 games however and only have wages for one option, there is no way you could pick Porter above Chambers... Yusuff obviously isn't a wide player and Shields isn't really an option at all as he isn't even currently in the squad.

Medy used to drive most Daggers fans mad but at least he turned it on 1 game in 3 or 4 rather than 1 in 10... and he also scored the odd penalty.

Porter and Hemmings run around like mad, much like jake Reed and give their all for the team... of that I have no doubt, but they will never create enough over the season to justify them getting in as part of a 433 formation, ahead of us having a 442 with two genuine strikers up top
I was far from a fan of Medy, but I'd have over Porter, Hemmings and Chambers without any thought at all.

I think Porter is pretty poor. He makes the same dummy runs over and over and defenders never fall for them and his final ball is seriously lacking.
I'm not convinced he works that hard either - he ducks out of headers a lot and has on more than one occassion lied one the floor when a 'foul' hasn't gone his way.
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Adrian wrote:
Lcbdagger wrote:
Richie wrote:Porter is the best winger we have.

Not a popular opinion perhaps but he's won me around. Deserves to be in the team ahead of Hemmings, Chambers, Yusuff, Shields etc in my opinion
If you are talking about a one off game when all possible players are on sh@t hot form and giving 1010% then I couldn't disagree... if you are talking 46 games however and only have wages for one option, there is no way you could pick Porter above Chambers... Yusuff obviously isn't a wide player and Shields isn't really an option at all as he isn't even currently in the squad.

Medy used to drive most Daggers fans mad but at least he turned it on 1 game in 3 or 4 rather than 1 in 10... and he also scored the odd penalty.

Porter and Hemmings run around like mad, much like jake Reed and give their all for the team... of that I have no doubt, but they will never create enough over the season to justify them getting in as part of a 433 formation, ahead of us having a 442 with two genuine strikers up top
I was far from a fan of Medy, but I'd have over Porter, Hemmings and Chambers without any thought at all.

I think Porter is pretty poor. He makes the same dummy runs over and over and defenders never fall for them and his final ball is seriously lacking.
I'm not convinced he works that hard either - he ducks out of headers a lot and has on more than one occassion lied one the floor when a 'foul' hasn't gone his way.
Disagree with that Adrian. Porter is one of our most hard working players. Certainly above average for work rate
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Patch up things at the back and you wouldn't question any of these players ability.Cant anyone remember just 2 seasons ago when we couldn't get a cross in or a shot on goal ?? These blokes do it for fun but get let down at the back.Porter and hemmings on a mediocre day piss all over Damien Scannell,Dom green and some of the others we had to endure on the wing in the past.Digging out the wrong people here I think.Now whether they have the right defensive qualities when we don't have the ball might be a more appropriate criticism.
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Mark
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Let down at the back? We've barely scored a goal lately. The whole thing is wrong, the tactics and the personnel.
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