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Yes but I haven't called anyone a spastic have I? I have used the word to describe the actions of some morons we have amongst us. I have aimed the word at nobody in particular. What is everyone offended at here ? Me using the word? Me digging out people who follow us that clearly are an embarrassment? Or does anyone on here think I mean them ? Nobody reading this did I mean to offend and nobody reading it is actually offended. But we do have people who are perpetually offended by just about anything.Daggernewbie wrote:Just remember your reply if someone calls you a certain word ARNUARNU wrote:It's a word that shouldn't be sung at disabled children. I think using it in the context of describing idiots who do such things is quite acceptable. Spastic for so many of my years was an acceptable term but has in recent years become very un pc. It's use as a derogatory term for people acting in a less than sensible way or doing something badly as far as I know has never been particularly polite. I don't believe in apologies for the professionally offended , how I meant it and the context in which I said it I stand by. C•••• is a bad word, even that has a time and a place. I could have used that instead i suppose and none of you would have said a word. Hypocrites.
Quite worrying......
Bollix to Shampoo, it's real poo we want !
Delete it then. If I actually called someone a spastic then fair enough. But I didn't did I? In your position of high importance and natural urge to be a martyr all the time I'd have thought you'd have deleted it immediately and then blamed Thompson. There's nothing to see here, just the professionally offended kicking off over nothing.Auntie Merge wrote:It is a word that should never be used at all to anyone; not only disabled children.
On another forum I used to moderate on, your posts would have all been edited to remove the word.
I'm leaving it here if only to demonstrate what idiots some people are.
Bollix to Shampoo, it's real poo we want !
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Auntie Merge
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It doesn't matter whether you called someone it or not, but the very use of the word associates all daggers fans with that vocabulary.
Calling moderators martyrs does not help your cause.
Calling moderators martyrs does not help your cause.
What bollocks!!Auntie Merge wrote:It doesn't matter whether you called someone it or not, but the very use of the word associates all daggers fans with that vocabulary.
Calling moderators martyrs does not help your cause.
Sensible people will see the context in which it was said and reach their own convlusions. One of them being that the over reaction by the easily offended and pc brigade is alive and well on this forum. When did you become the judge of what is and isn't offensive? You let the c word f word w word etc etc go all the time. You've never pulled anyone for using the word retard or pikey and your happy to allow direct personal abuse go all the time. When it suits you of course. Your just sore because I identified your vendetta against Thompson. Just cos he threw you out for your stupid banner that time.
Bollix to Shampoo, it's real poo we want !
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Auntie Merge
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Arnu I have a busy day ahead and don't have time to moderate at the present so I have banned you for 24 hours as it doesn't look like other admin is around.
If they turn up soon they can moderate and release you, if they see fit. otherwise the best way to stop you trolling is to put you in the naughty corner.
I really am staring to believe that the only reason you post on here is to troll.
If they turn up soon they can moderate and release you, if they see fit. otherwise the best way to stop you trolling is to put you in the naughty corner.
I really am staring to believe that the only reason you post on here is to troll.
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mickeyblue
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all this nonsense just ban swearing completly, not that it offends me but small kids could look on here reading semi grown ups swearing.
arnu calling people morons and spastic's whilst acting a complete numpty is the funniest quotes ive read in a long while.
wd merge
arnu calling people morons and spastic's whilst acting a complete numpty is the funniest quotes ive read in a long while.
wd merge
but we finished 9th!
As admin, I feel have to step in now. I apologise that it's late but this is first chance I've had to view the forum today. I geuninely feel that everyone has only acted in a way which they see appropriate. However I'd like to overturn the ban, I think he used the word out of context and not genuinely as a dig at the disabled.
Going forward if anyone is geuninely offended by certain words, I can add a swear filter, I personally don't see fit myself but if others want it, I will add it
Going forward if anyone is geuninely offended by certain words, I can add a swear filter, I personally don't see fit myself but if others want it, I will add it
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The Romford Dagger
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admin wrote:As admin, I feel have to step in now. I apologise that it's late but this is first chance I've had to view the forum today. I geuninely feel that everyone has only acted in a way which they see appropriate. However I'd like to overturn the ban, I think he used the word out of context and not genuinely as a dig at the disabled.
Going forward if anyone is geuninely offended by certain words, I can add a swear filter, I personally don't see fit myself but if others want it, I will add it
Ooooh a moderation overall
That ain't gonna go down well. *
* good decision though. The ban was well over the top.
He didn't use it out of context, he used it in exactly the way that makes it offensive. Not a fan of banning, educating on why words are offensive is better. I can't believe it's 2017 and we're debating how offensive that word is though.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
The medical term "spastic" came into use to describe cerebral palsy.[3] The Scottish Council for the Care of Spastics was founded in 1946, and the Spastics Society, an English charity for people with cerebral palsy, was founded in 1951.
However, the word began to be used as an insult and became a term of abuse used to imply stupidity or physical ineptness: one who is uncoordinated or incompetent, or a fool.[4] It was often colloquially abbreviated to shorter forms such as "spaz".
Although the word has a much longer history, its derogatory use grew considerably in the 1980s and this is sometimes attributed to the BBC children's TV show Blue Peter;[5] during the International Year of Disabled Persons (1981), several episodes of Blue Peter featured a man named Joey Deacon with cerebral palsy (described as a "spastic"). Phrases such as "joey", "deacon", and "spaz" became widely used insults amongst children at that time.[6]
In 1994, the same year that Conservative MP Terry Dicks referred to himself in a House of Commons debate as "a spastic with cerebral palsy",[7] the Spastics Society changed its name to Scope. The word "spastic" has been largely erased from popular English usage and is deemed unacceptable to use outside of specific medical contexts, thus reducing stigmatisation of the condition.[5] However, UK schoolchildren allegedly developed a derogatory adaptation of the Spastic Society's new name, "scoper".[8] The current understanding of the word is well-illustrated by a BBC survey in 2003, which found that "spastic" was the second most offensive term in the UK relating to disability (retard was deemed most offensive).[2] In 2007, Lynne Murphy, a linguist at the University of Sussex, described the term as being "one of the most taboo insults to a British ear".[1]
However, the word began to be used as an insult and became a term of abuse used to imply stupidity or physical ineptness: one who is uncoordinated or incompetent, or a fool.[4] It was often colloquially abbreviated to shorter forms such as "spaz".
Although the word has a much longer history, its derogatory use grew considerably in the 1980s and this is sometimes attributed to the BBC children's TV show Blue Peter;[5] during the International Year of Disabled Persons (1981), several episodes of Blue Peter featured a man named Joey Deacon with cerebral palsy (described as a "spastic"). Phrases such as "joey", "deacon", and "spaz" became widely used insults amongst children at that time.[6]
In 1994, the same year that Conservative MP Terry Dicks referred to himself in a House of Commons debate as "a spastic with cerebral palsy",[7] the Spastics Society changed its name to Scope. The word "spastic" has been largely erased from popular English usage and is deemed unacceptable to use outside of specific medical contexts, thus reducing stigmatisation of the condition.[5] However, UK schoolchildren allegedly developed a derogatory adaptation of the Spastic Society's new name, "scoper".[8] The current understanding of the word is well-illustrated by a BBC survey in 2003, which found that "spastic" was the second most offensive term in the UK relating to disability (retard was deemed most offensive).[2] In 2007, Lynne Murphy, a linguist at the University of Sussex, described the term as being "one of the most taboo insults to a British ear".[1]
Bollix to Shampoo, it's real poo we want !